Vidqun, in order for me to start to become convinced that Bill Gates is trying to make people sterile or is trying to kill people, I would need to read such stated by mainstream traditional news agencies which I have been trusting for decades. Those agencies include the following: Associated Press (AP), Reuters, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, PBS, The Guardian, The New York Times, UPI, and similar news agencies. If the claims your sources say about Bill Gates being evil were true then the trusted (trusted by me at least) news sources mentioned above would reported it as true and most likely Bill Gates would have been arrested by law enforcement by now.
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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The photo of solar panels over rolling hills looks extremely fake to me. That is largely because solar panels need to be on mounting racks and electrical cables need to be hooked up to them.
https://totalenergies.com/media/news/press-releases/totalenergies-launches-its-largest-solar-power-plant-france is what I think is an accurate source. It mentions a different solar power installation in France. For information sources about other solar electric power installation projects in France see the following.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_France
- https://www.pv-magazine.com/2021/09/17/frances-second-largest-pv-plant-comes-online/
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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The following web pages have very important articles to read to learn the facts about certain social media claims.
- https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-gates-list/fact-check-list-of-claims-about-bill-gates-includes-falsities-idUSL1N2LO230 (The article is called "Fact Check-List of claims about Bill Gates includes falsities".)
- https://factcheck.afp.com/who-did-not-say-bill-gates-adds-sterilisation-formula-vaccines (The article is called "WHO did not say Bill Gates adds sterilisation formula to vaccines".)
- https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/no-bill-gates-is-not-funding-covid-19-vaccines-as-a-way-to-conduct-global-surveillance-or-to-depopulate-the-world/ (The article is called "No, Bill Gates is not funding COVID-19 vaccines as a way to conduct global surveillance or to depopulate the world".)
- https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/infertility-diabolical-agenda-anti-vaxx-sleight-hand-propaganda (The article is called "Infertility: A Diabolical Agenda Is Anti-Vaxx Sleight-of-Hand Propaganda:Disgraced anti-vaxxer Andrew Wakefield directs a movie based on the false claim that Kenyan women are being sterilized under the cover of tetanus vaccination. His real goal has nothing to do with Africa".)
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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Vidgun, thanks for sharing your views with me. My researching a number of your claims regrading the sustainability of renewable energy resulted in me discovering strong evidence which disproves claims of renewable being unsustainable. My researching your claims resulted in me being convinced more than ever that renewable energy is indeed very sustainable and that the evidence for human caused climate change and human caused global warming are indeed very real. I found proof that renewable energy in many locations is indeed cheaper (and has a lower carbon footprint) than energy from gas, coal or oil. I also saw proof that Bill Gates is indeed not trying to reduce the population by nefarious means (though yes he wishes to reduce the rate of population growth in some countries). As a result of researching a number of the claims promoted/spread by you I found clear irrefutable evidence that the claims against climate change and renewable energy are bogus, often consisting of photoshopped tampering of photos and of videos. I thus know now that I can just ignore all the extreme claims (made by climate change deniers) against the reality of human caused climate change and against the importance of renewable energy, rather than take the time so see if perhaps they are true. I also know now that I can just ignore all of the photos promoted in such wild extreme claims.
Thank you Vidgun for strengthening my confidence that humankind's conversion to use of renewable energy is much needed, and that Bill Gates is not trying to make people sterile (such as through vaccinations).
It is very sad that so many lies are being made and that so many of them are being spread by social media (and sometimes as part of fake news in talk shows in conservative media television broadcasts) . It is very sad that so many of the lies are saying human climate change is not happening, that renewable energy is not sustainable, that humans do not need to take action to fight climate change, that election in 2020 was stolen from Donald Trump, that Bill Gates is trying to kill people and/or make people sterile (such as trough Covid-19 vaccinations and through other vaccinations). It is also so very sad that so many people believe the lies and that so many of those people (such as in the USA) vote in political elections in accordance with their belief in the lies.
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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Thank you joey jojo for your insightful posts about climate change, including your pointing out the problems with a number of claims made by deniers (in this topic thread) of human caused climate change.
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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Correction of typos: The last paragraph of my prior post should say the following.
"On the graph you provided (of which an enlarged image is at https://www.antarcticglaciers.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Ice_Age_Temperature.png ) the vertical line for zero thousands of years ago is probably for the year 1950 (since
the "Present" in "Before Present" when used by geologists and archaeologists, especially when used in carbon dating, means the year 1950). -
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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A moment ago I clicked on your link and I noticed that there is another chart shown (besides the one shown by you) and it is very different than the one you show. I then I clicked on the image (opening it into a new tab) to see a much enlarged image. That image is a much larger image and is located at https://www.antarcticglaciers.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Vostok_420ky_4curves_insolation_to_2004.jpg , with the far right of the chart spiking way up for the blue (Carbon dioxide) and green (Methane) lines) and off the chart to the right. It confirms what I have been saying and not what the climate deniers are saying!! See the image below and note that its time frame is stated in years BP (Before Present). By Before Present it means before the year 1950 CE/AD, hence the portion the graphs that go off the right side of the chart for the years after the year 1950 CE/AD..
Note that the temperature line (in red with the graduation marks on the right) closely synchronizes with the carbon dioxide line and that temperature line lags behind the methane line. Also note that the lines of those two gases each have a very recent huge spike! This chart thus very strongly supports the fact of climate change being progress and that a considerable increase in global temperature is likely imminent.
One the graph you provided (of which an enlarged image is at https://www.antarcticglaciers.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Ice_Age_Temperature.png ) the vertical line for zero thousands of years ago is probably for the year 1950 (since the "Present" in "Before Present" when used by geologist and archaeologists, especially when used in carbon dating, means the year 1950).
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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Sigfrid Mallozzi, the chart you provided covers hundreds of thousands of years (compressed into a small amount of screen space), but the human caused industrial revolution didn't begin till about 300 years ago and most of the CO2 emitted by it was in the last 100 years. The chart provided by you doesn't really show what has happened in the past 300 years ago. Furthermore, the chart's URL says it is for the Antarctic but the changes in ice quantity and and polar warming am talking about are primarily of the Arctic (where is there no land mass at the pole). That is the opposite side the planet than the Antarctic (where there is a large land mass at the pole)! The polar melting of ice is primarily at the Arctic.
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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Vidgun I trust the reliability of the AP News, but not of wild claims plastered on social media sites without adequate supporting documentation. At https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-bill-gates-foundation-name-952700093300 they say "Gates Foundation wasn’t named the Institute for Population Control".
Where is your source for the photo and the information about the electric cars? Without a source, the photo of cars parked in a lot is not any proof to me of your claim about the cars. Companies are in existence for the recycling of various kinds of electric batteries.
The sea ice in the Arctic is on a continuing melting trend (though obviously it freezes during winter).
Virtually all (if not all) of petroleum oil (and coal) extracted out of the ground was made by decay (under pressure) of vegetation (and maybe of animals) during massive extinctions many millions of years ago over millions of years and are thus fossil fuels. I learned that over 20 years ago from scientific articles/books. See https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/fossil-fuels/ for example. It says in part the following.
"Fossil fuels are made from decomposing plants and animals. These fuels are found in the Earth’s crust and contain carbon and hydrogen, which can be burned for energy. Coal, oil, and natural gas are examples of fossil fuels. Coal is a material usually found in sedimentary rock deposits where rock and dead plant and animal matter are piled up in layers. More than 50 percent of a piece of coal’s weight must be from fossilized plants. Oil is originally found as a solid material between layers of sedimentary rock, like shale. This material is heated in order to produce the thick oil that can be used to make gasoline. Natural gas is usually found in pockets above oil deposits. It can also be found in sedimentary rock layers that don’t contain oil. Natural gas is primarily made up of methane."
https://www.discovermagazine.com/environment/why-well-never-run-out-of-oil says the following.
"The Origin of Oil
Unlike coal, which is widely distributed throughout the world, petroleum is more difficult to find and extract. Coal forms wherever plants were buried in sediments in ancient swamps, but several conditions must exist for petroleum — which includes oil and natural gas — to form.
The first is an accumulation of algae and other microorganisms in shallow seas, like those that periodically formed as the continents drifted apart and moved together again over hundreds of millions of years. Second, these microorganisms must get trapped in silt, which can happen wherever giant rivers emptied into shallow seas. “There wouldn’t be much oxygen, so they were preserved instead of rotting away,” says Roger Anderson, a researcher at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University. Finally, these pools of dead microorganisms must be subjected to the right conditions — say, a temperature of about 150 degrees, under pressure for a few million years. That prolonged pressure-cooking causes chemical reactions that convert proteins, carbohydrates, and other compounds in the material into crude oil. If the temperature rises to about 200 degrees, the result will be natural gas.
No matter where oil is found, it is always a sign that the area once lay at the bottom of a stagnant sea. And in places like the Salt Lake in Utah and the Black Sea, oil continues to be formed today. In the Gulf of California, near the Colorado River delta, researchers pulled up a mud sample and found it laced with petroleum — a sure indication that, somewhere down below, oil is now being formed. That may prove to be an oil-rich province someday, but don’t rush just yet to bid for exploration rights, says Anderson. “It’ll take about 10 million years before its ready.”Even the most inhospitable locations are being made drill-friendly. A decade ago, oil was discovered in just over 200 feet of water off the coast of Newfoundland. Because icebergs flow through the area, no ordinary oil platform would work. Then engineers hired by a group of oil companies designed an iceberg-proof goliath. Its base is a huge 16-pointed star made of 650,000 tons of concrete and steel. (The points, which are supposed to deflect and break up icebergs, have not yet actually collided with one.) The price: $4 billion. The platform, called the Hibernia, is expected to recover 615 million barrels of oil over 15 to 20 years. That’s not much compared with, say, the 200 billion barrels that Saudi Arabia holds in its oil fields. But it’s a good example of how oil companies are branching out and squeezing oil from improbable places.
Know Your HydrocarbonsFossil fuels — the hydrocarbons known as peat, coal, oil, and natural gas — are formed from the constituents of deeply buried and preserved organic matter. They make good fuels because the energy stored in the bonds between carbon and hydrogen is abundant and easy to release in combustion with oxygen. Some hydrocarbons are simpler than others. Coal, for example, is mostly carbon, while petroleum — which includes oil and natural gas — is mostly carbon and hydrogen. Still, crude oil is anything but simple. It’s made up of carbon molecules of many different sizes. The lightest— — with the shortest carbon chains — make good motor fuels because they are easily vaporized in engines. The heaviest hydrocarbons form viscous oil, paraffin, and asphalt. But even the longer carbon chains can be broken up chemically — in a process called cracking — to create fuels made of lighter molecules."
Are you a young earth creationist? I am convinced of evolution. Non-evolutionary Creationism is at odds with the scientific evidence, but evolution is supported by science.
The book called "Daniel" was not written when it claims to have been written and it is not inspired by God, any god.
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Science News article: ‘Case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans
by Disillusioned JW ina news article has the headline of " ‘case closed’: 99.9% of scientists agree climate emergency caused by humans"; see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/19/case-closed-999-of-scientists-agree-climate-emergency-caused-by-humans .
the article says in part the following.. 'the scientific consensus that humans are altering the climate has passed 99.9%, according to research that strengthens the case for global action at the cop26 summit in glasgow.. the degree of scientific certainty about the impact of greenhouse gases is now similar to the level of agreement on evolution and plate tectonics, the authors say, based on a survey of nearly 90,000 climate-related studies.
this means there is practically no doubt among experts that burning fossil fuels, such as oil, gas, coal, peat and trees, is heating the planet and causing more extreme weather.. a previous survey in 2013 showed 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities are altering earth’s climate.. this has been updated and expanded by the study by cornell university that shows the tiny minority of sceptical voices has diminished to almost nothing as evidence mounts of the link between fossil-fuel burning and climate disruption.. the latest survey of peer-reviewed literature published from 2012 to november 2020 was conducted in two stages.
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People, please note that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_sea_ice_decline says the following. "Arctic sea ice decline has occurred in recent decades due to the effects of climate change on oceans, with declines in sea ice area, extent, and volume. Sea ice in the Arctic Ocean has been melting more in summer than it refreezes in the winter. Global warming, caused by greenhouse gas forcing is responsible for the decline in Arctic sea ice. The decline of sea ice in the Arctic has been accelerating during the early twenty‐first century, with a decline rate of minus 4.7% per decade (it has declined over 50% since the first satellite records).[1][2][3] It is also thought that summertime sea ice will cease to exist sometime during the 21st century.[4] ... Sea ice area means the total area covered by ice, whereas sea ice extent is the area of ocean with at least 15% sea ice, while the volume is the total amount of ice in the Arctic.[5] "
